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Re: Central WI Crops

That right there is the reason I have avoided any and all upgrades in technology! Or at least thats my story right now.

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Re: Central WI Crops

OK - more about the GPS in a few minutes.  Here's my latest set of pictures.  This time from over by Spencer, WI where my farm was. 

 

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Beans First.  This is one of my neighbors' bean fields.  It doesn't matter which field - they all sorta look the same.  Can you believe how short these things are?  Planted in 7" rows?  Unbelievable.

 

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Closer look at the podding.  At least these are filled out.  But wait until these loose their leaves, they're going to be about 9 inches tall.

 

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My neighbor who has helped me all these years standing in the field.

 

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Here's a field of beans that will never see a bin - lots of beans over there being chopped for forage.

 

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My candidate for worst corn field planted for grain this year.

 

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My second candidate for worse corn field of the year planted for grain.  And, yes, it is corn about 2 foot tall, with the tassle.  This is one where you could sit in the field to see what you could see and see the other side - no problem.

 

It's ugly over there guys.  U - G - L - Y.  My agronamist over there tells me it's the worst he's ever seen.  And it all comes back to planting in the mud, poor roots and everything else we've talked about.

 

He said he was a a Syngenta meeting for dealers over here by Stanton last week.  I saw the field days there going on.  He said that the Syngenta reps were very concerned about the crop development across the midwest, and felt that yields would be down "substantially" from normal.Well, DA - crops still need rain to grow.  But this market doesn't think so.  Us growers think so.  My agronamist thinks so, Syngenta thinks so (heresay - maybe).  But this market - not so much.  Whatever. 

 

Jen

 

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Re: Central WI Crops

BTw guys unless your system is hookedup to a wireless internet connection I doubt anybody could be intercepting your data on the fly maybe when you download it later to a laptop or whatever device they could.

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listening to 890am ND station have sugar beet updates daily during harvest yields from 13 ton to 23 ton per acre usually pretty  good indactor. All market analysts commented on how bad beans are looking on there drives to and from work. Friend by SD ND MN border said yields from 10 - 31 bu. per acre on beans corn is gonna be light

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On the way home, I was thinking about this GPS issue thing.  Actually, with the GPS unit was software that I can take the chip out of the Insight, plug into my computer and access the information from it.  My insight goes from tillage, to fertilizer application, to planting, to spraying, to harvest, completed with varieties and test plot info.  If I was going to hack yield info, that's where I'd do it.  In the software that processes the info and sends it to a computer bank somewhere that compiles the info and spits it out.  And, this one would be VERY, VERY easy to do.  And no one would ever know.   Just another part of your computer sending and receiving stuff from who knows where.  And you don't need every farmer to do it.  A smattering of farmers across the Midwest would give the computer tech looking at the info what they would need to know.  All nicely bundled and graphed for them.

 

Wouldn't that be something that someone would be interested in if they wanted to bet properly in the futures market?  I'm not saying it's done, but this is one way it could be done very easily.

 

Jen

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someone started designing a software program 15 min ago, Jen.........find em, so you can get the copyrights!

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Re:. Wouldn't that be something that someone would be interested in if they wanted to bet properly in the futures market? I'm not saying it's done, but this is one way it could be done very easily.

 

It would be very valuable information IF, and it is a BIG IF, the market were to behave in a rational manner. So far it appears to me the traders all have their heads up their a$$. I am baffled that no one seems interested in hearing of the faults with this years' crop. The field tours all made an effort to skip over the problem areas, the prevented planting acres are a huge secret, and all anyone wants to talk about is the areas that have fantastic crops. I think Hobby did a great job getting his rose colored glasses distributed. Too good. Where is Hobby, anyway? 

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Mike - that's my issue here.  If there's a way to make a buck illegally, someone is going to think of a way to exploit it.  And to me, the futures markets, ALL the futures markets are rife with manipulation at this point.  There's simply too much money for different entities to work with.  And if they work together, any market can be maniplated.   Let's go back to the fuel crisis in the 70's - remember?  WERE RUNNING OUT OF GAS....lines at the pumps.  Funny how there's ALWAYS fuel - when the price goes up.  And once it goes up - well, guess what, it never comes back down to where it was.  Sorta like our latest WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF GAS scenerio replayed a few years ago.  A few people made lots and lots of money on this last one, didn't they Mr. Cheney?  

 

We live in a world with huge amounts of money poured into these markets.  No one will ever convince me that these markets are not manipulated on a daily basis.  Everyday, in board rooms across the country, I see a battle being waged as to how to make the most money.  Do we buy - do we sell?  How much, when will it have the most impact?  This isn't the USDA, it's the funds, the Cargils, those with enough money and ilfluence to put out bogus reports "Let's show China cancelling some loads of beans today to hammer the market some more!"  No proof needed.  No documentation.  Is it that easy?   I don't know.  But it always bothers me how those cancellations show up at just the right time to move the market - a lot.  And how about that rain this summer?  A bad call?  A bad read of the maps?  Or a precisely placed bit of info put out there for farmers in mid June to get them to sell?  It has to make you wonder when you really start looking at it.  It has to.  If it doesn't - your not looking for yourself, you're believing what you're being told by  a very slick machine out there to get farmers crops for the least they can.  My goal is to get more of you looking more closely at what's going on.  The more we look, the more we stand a chance to find.

 

Jen

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If you think they are manipulated, and im not arguing one way or the other, just make sure you trade on the same side as the manipulator and all will be well. If you are losing at the game and blame it on manipulators, and if markets are manipulated, they then must be manipulated in both directions, just make sure that you are on board when they are manipulated in the direction you want them to go and be off board when they are manipulated in the opposite direction. Now if you are on the wrong side all the time that is a different story.
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Lets see, with scant rainfall this summer we produced something like 13 billion bushels of corn of which the market is projected not to need a billion of and U.S. corn along has been priced .40 a bushel above the competition delivered wherever in the world and the price has declined all summer and there is a problem with this price decline? If the price hadn't declined we would be 1.20 above world price and the cargills along with every mom and pop farmer would be importing corn. commodity Markets seek market clearing prices whether those prices are higher or lower.