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Down We Go

Equities are getting slammed again. I think we drop to the 100 day moving average over the next month - then we see from there.

Rhetoric with Russia and the world continues to heat up over Krimia. A final chapter is a long way from being written here. Have to wonder what's going on up in the space station? I wonder if Russia will do a hostile takeover of the kitchen or the frige, or some other needed part of the station. And have to wider if they've raised the price for transporting people and supplies to the station.

Has anybody noticed how dry it is, and a total lack of any major rain systems in the Midwest? This is spring. Rain events should be major, and often.

And where's the plane? We got some clicks that we just "happened" to come across in the ocean. My, the searchers were sure lucky to find them. I'll believe it when I see the airplane intact on the ocean floor - of course it will have sunk into the silt in the bottom so there is nothing - just like the plane in Pennsylvania during the 9-11 incident. The shuttle broke up still in space, yet we recovered the remains and a lot of the shuttle. Does it bother anyone else that the plane in Pennsylvania just disintegrated, and nothing was done to at least attempt to recover the bodies of our nation's heroes?

Too much time on my hands, I guess. A person shouldn't have this much time to sit and ponder. What it is, it is I guess. Or is It?

Jen
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people are too busy and have to just go "about their lives" or just simply unaware of themselves and their surround, Jenny.

 

.....was never a "plane" in Penn..........those passengers are in witness protection programs as are the ones from American in NY..........doubt many are aware of the charges in the towers that all went off w/in milliseconds of the 757 Military panes that hit the towers.................my opinion that top US political figures knew every detail of what was to happen that day, beforehand.......i could be wrong about military planes..........but the towers were also hit from within............................

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it not simply your imagination re: certain matters, Jenny -- we REALLY do live in "The Truman Show"

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I never saw a plane crash look like UAL 93 in Penn.  The ground may have swallowed up the fuselage, like they said.  I doubt it.  But the wings, engines, tail.  No way.  The impact crater did not support what happened to the aircraft, from what I saw.  If that surface is that porous, I would be worried about sink holes developing everywhere.  And - I would like to see and engineering diagram of where the impact happened, to see what the subsurface directly below the impact crater looked like.  Authorities have tried to say the airplane just vaporized because it was going so fast.  I'm sorry - but matter is matter and it takes lots and lots to simply vaporize and aircraft.  I wish I knew what happened.  I know that as a controller at the time, I voiced an opinion that my supervisor overhead, and I was told to shut up and these people were heros.  I haven't said much since.....

 

Jen

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can u type an opinion or....................................? did i already opinionate enough?

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I've probably said too much already. Let's just say I've seen a fair number of discrepancies that makes me wonder about how much of our news is "sanitized" before we see it. "You can't handle the truth" comes to mind.

Jen
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The more I do research on UAL93, the more questions I have.  Supposedly, the black boxes were recovered, yet there wasn't any excavation at the site that I saw and there was no intact piece of the aircraft left.  Where was the landing gear?  They're pretty robust on todays airliners, and are always present at any crash site I've seen.  "Oh the ground was so soft from the coal excavation there".  right.  That mine area where UAL 93 crashed was mined in the 1920's and the company doing the mining there went broke in 1927.  So the ground had, what - like 70 plus years to settle?  I live on a sand hill, and I tell you what - the area that I put my water line into 25 years ago is pretty settled down.  Funny how an area that is rocky wouldn't have done the same.  And how soft is the rock there anyway.  I need to make a trip out there.

 

The biggest thing for me was - why is no one asking questions?  Like what happens to the Chinese Soybean Cancellations, we are happy to know what we know and let it to others to do the dirty work and try to find the answers.  Someone else is doing it.  Are they?  I don't think so.  I think we've become a society that's happy to be told an answer, because it's too much work to find the answers, or the questions, for ourselves.  

 

How about this one?  Passengers on the lastest missing Aircraft, MAL370, couldn't make cell phone calls - because the aircraft was too high and the towers wouldn't accept the calls.  Yet, on 911, passengers of UAL93 made and received multiple calls on the flight.  Even at altitude of 35000 feet.  CNN is good at comparing plane crashes to plane crashes - yet not one reference has been made to flight 93 vs MAL370.  I just find it all very interesting.  And as I look more, very scary....

 

Jen

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I hate to get involved with you because of your theories, but we're probably both (especially you ) on some nsa watch list now. At the minimum, you will be audited, your phone tapped, and your internet hacked and watched by fbi. Look out for guys in black sedans

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NSA can watch - they better have lots of coffee because my life is pretty boring.  I don't smoke, drink, and I've never tried any drugs (unless you count my heart medication), and  I don't have a "bug-out" plan for where to run and hide with a pile of guns and ammo when civilization collapses.  I paid more in taxes 75 days ago than a lot of people earn in a lifetime.  I don't gamble (other than occasionally on the futures or the stock market recently) and I don't have off-shore accounts.  I've been audited multiple times, and until this year have done my own taxes, which I am a firm believer in.  I haven't had a passport for 25 years, although I probably need to get one so I can go up into Canada if I want.  I don't use social networking - other than the Ag Online site - no twitter, linkedin or facebook, although I did have stock in the latter two until I dumped my stock 3 weeks ago - which in the linkin and facebook stock was a very good thing.   I don't do porn, and I dispise gettting emailed items of a sexual nature, and I sure as heck don't need male enhancement products, which is why my emails all go through multiple scanning programs before they get to me.   I have 5 disks in my lower back that are herniated or bulged, and I have degenerative disk disease that make it difficult and painful for me to walk, my right leg goes numb as do the balls of my feet.  I have heart disease, and issues with blood clotting in my veins.   My endothelium layer has been compromised, so I'm told, and I have the Factor V Leiden single gene mutation.   I believe that the internet overall has been a bad thing for society.  It desocializes people, and allows many an escape into a fantasy world, that often has consequences on others.  

 

So - there you have it.  There's probably more to me than I wrote here - but that's the bulk of it.  I held a secret government clearance while in the FAA, and they don't just hand them out when you walk in the door.  I don't think that our government had an organized plan to take out the world trade centers as a ruse to take over governments in the middle east.  I don't think there were explosives planted in the buildings.  But I also have my own reasons to believe that if President Bush hadn't been President, 9-11 may not have happened - and that is a bold statement.

 

The crash site of UAL93 is problematic for me.  It has been since day one.  And it continues to bother me.  Because, when you see the photos of what was collected of the flight, read the accounts - well, you need to do your own research and draw your own conclusions.  And guys in black vans...they don't bother me - at least they're quiet.  It's the **bleep** snowmobiles and loud motorcycles that I hate....

 

Jen

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Jen,  I think it would be good for you to make the trip to the crash site near Shanksville PA.  I have been there twice, once it was just a temporary memorial and the second time after phase one of the permanent memorial was completed.  You know, you just can not walk over the crash point, I'm guessing maybe 200 yards is the closest you can get.  It does give one a lot to think about.

I have read the book "Let's Roll!" by Lisa Beamer, wife of Todd Beamer.  I thought it was a good read.

Another good read was "Chosen to Live" by Jerry Schemmel survivor of flight 232.  This was the plane crash near Sioux City IA. on July 19,1989.  The one that ened up in a corn field.  Most survived but 112 died.  The current rain event here in Iowa is turning out to be a very nice event.  Over 2" of steady rain, with very little if any run off. Some corn planted here but very little.  Hope your snow soon melts.

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