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Senior Advisor

FSA Data

FSA data showed corn planted acres at 88.634 million acres vs 83.147 million acres last month.  Prevent plant acres for September were at 1.622 million acres vs 2.301 million acres last month. 

·         FSA data showed soybean planted acres at 82.763 million acres vs 79.477 million acres last month.  Prevent plant acres for September were at 0.848 million acres vs 2.173 million acres last month. 

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Honored Advisor

Re: FSA Data

Could one conclude that those former prevent plant acres was a case of farmers dragging a planter across the field in July right under their insurance deadline?    Those July planted acres can`t be expected to yield the USDA`s 167.8 and 47.1.

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Veteran Advisor

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Oh my, it is 2014 data, wow.  Do you think they used these numbers for the WASDE report last week???!!!!!!!  

 

 

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Senior Advisor

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Esteemed Advisor

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EC where did you get your numbers?

 

I reference the article Lisa Prater published on this site.

 

Corn: 2.352 mil acres vs. 2.301 last month

Beans: 2.219 mil acres vs. 2.173 last month

Wheat: 696k vs. 693k

 

Total PP would equal 4.571 mil acres.

Not sure how anyone in the world gets this to be "less than last month".

 

btw...you ignore FSA planted acres numbers because they don't do it the same way as NASS. Just take the NASS numbers minus these numbers to get the best guess number. jmo

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Veteran Advisor

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On FSA planted acres --

 

http://www.dtnprogressivefarmer.com/dtnag/common/link.do;jsessionid=85105A350EDA60FEE31F2B581D36F0D4...

 

From that article --

 

USDA's National Ag Statistics Service (NASS) incorporates FSA's acreage data into its corn and soybean estimates in the October Crop Production because that's when it feels FSA's numbers have reached a level of statistical reliability.

However, the two agencies operate on different definitions, so FSA's numbers don't directly translate to changes into NASS's acreage estimates. Lance Honig, who leads NASS's crop statistics branch, explained in a memo (that you can find here: http://1.usa.gov/…) how the categories differ.

"The FSA categories 'acres planted' and 'acres failed' represent acres actually planted to each specific crop, and combined are comparable to the NASS planted acreage definition. The FSA category 'acres failed' also serves as a minimum level of abandonment and is useful to NASS in establishing harvested acreage estimates. The FSA category 'acres prevented planted' is helpful in understanding current conditions, but does not directly correspond to any NASS acreage estimates."

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Senior Advisor

Re: FSA Data

Time I sent you a PM on the data

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Esteemed Advisor

Re: FSA Data

PM back at ya.

 

Thanks WCMO for the information. Just proves that what we really need is one more level of bureacracy to force the 3 levels we already have to standardize their definitions! Smiley Frustrated

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Honored Advisor

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The department of standardized definitions............. The beginning of the end for politicals as we know it....

 

Smiley Happy

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Honored Advisor

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Would this department be in charge of projections or predictions....or just plain wild a** guesses?   Smiley Wink

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