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bullrider685114
Veteran Contributor

In the perfect World the next farm bill

1. Affordable Crop Insurance as the primary safety net.

2. Payment limitations tightened up to be for all entities including joint ventures/general partnerships.

3. AGI Lowered to $500K Gross Income across the board and  attributed to ALL entities.

4. FSA done away with.Let NRCS handle a more conservation focused program administration. FSA has become bogged down with good ole boys that could give a **bleep** less if you produce a crop for a profit.

5. Loan rates raised to levels that reflect current market values. 9 months still seems to be a good time frame for expiration. Close the certificate loop hole that in the event we ever us the Market Gain again u can only use up to your payment limitation on market gains.

 

I have read nothing with meat on the bone about this farm program. Do the people in congress even know what is in this farm bill??? and how it works??? All I have heard is $23 to $24 billion in cuts. Well.. is that to DCP/ Acre only???

 

Most too busy to care right now, but you can be assured this being an election year, and the farm economy being one of the few bright spots. The new farm IS going to draw focus!!!!

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67guy
Veteran Contributor

Re: In the perfect World the next farm bill

Affordable cropi insurance has different meanings to different people.  Some people want the government out of the crop insurance completely.  If that were to happen I think crop insurance would be unaffordable for many.  I favor a compromise.  I would like to see a little more of the premium shifted from the government to the producer.  I would also like to see a provision that in the event of a drought or any other natural disaster there will be no aid bill or disaster payments.  Your crop insurance is your disaster payment.  In the past some people have elected not to buy crop insurance because they figured the government would step in to save the day with an aid bill of some kind. 

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bullrider685114
Veteran Contributor

Re: In the perfect World the next farm bill

And they were correct!! 2008 rough start too planting meant replanting soybeans. Some producers that farm in my area, either thru poor agronomic decision making or understanding that  crop insurance, and the SURE payment would yield them better profits per acre than shooting for the best yield possible. Farming the mail box has become a norm, and I hate to brand.... but these guys are the LARGE Operators in our communty. This Bill will be the coup degrau for agriculture as a whole. Which direction will ag take? Continued consoildation eventually ending up with 2 Ag producers farming the entire county, or a more sustainable smaller highly productive farms. The big corporate model for agriculture ain't gonna cut it, if we want a safe food supply too feed this 7 Billion population. Everybody needs to participate in the production.

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roarintiger1
Honored Advisor

Re: In the perfect World the next farm bill

A. Realistic crop insurance at a reasonable cost and absolutely NO disaster payments.

B. Still need some of the conservation side of things as well.

C. A direct link for reported planted acres straight to the USDA for reporting services.

D. Insurance should also be availible for speciality crops and livestock guys.

E. Loan program with updated values.

 

Other than that, they could flush most everything else.

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kraft-t
Senior Advisor

Re: In the perfect World the next farm bill

Get the government out of the crop insurance business.  I we beleive that private enterprise is so much more efficient then we should want government to exit that business immediately.

 

If we beleive in capitalism, then we should be confident that the market place will provide- affordable products. Just like it does in the health insurance market.

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rawhide
Advisor

Re: In the perfect World the next farm bill

that's not what you believe about health insurance on the forum page. please discuss the difference

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kraft-t
Senior Advisor

Re: In the perfect World the next farm bill

exactly what I said. We should expect the private insurance market to offer affordable crop insurance policies just like they offer affordable health insurance policies.

 

Which means of cours e that insurance providers will offer affordable policies for neither one.  Yet there a tons of farmers that oppose subsidies for health insurance but will whine like hell if the gubbermint doesn't subsidize crop insurance. It's time to man up just like the folks that can't afford health insurance.

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67guy
Veteran Contributor

Re: In the perfect World the next farm bill

I'm curious. Just where is it that you can purchase "Affordable" health insurance?
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Mizzou_Tiger
Senior Advisor

Re: In the perfect World the next farm bill

Take the government out of the crop insurance biz.............and grain would go higher.........you think any private insurance firm in their right mind would insure a dry land corn crop for more than 50% at some ridiculous premium out in the plains states.........it's like insuring a race car........it's going to crash, just a matter of when and how often, not IF......... The risk has to match the reward.........the government has been in the business of keeping that balance to ensure production no matter the risk, reward, or situation........take that away and we will learn to appreciate a 2 billion carryout....
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kraft-t
Senior Advisor

Re: In the perfect World the next farm bill

You can most anywhere if you are 22 and healthy as a horse. That is just the point. Affordable healthcare insurance is not available to most people. Neither will private crop insurance be a bargain.

 

So perhaps those private industries aqren't quite as efficient as they say. So when you want somwe guy to subsidize your crop insurance you might offer to subsidize his health insurance. One is no more socialist than the other.

 

My opposition to subsidized crop insurance is based on farmer opposition to subsidized health insurance. And if you want to repeal Obamacare, I'll want to repeal federal crop insurance.

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