cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
jec22
Veteran Advisor

Sec. of Ag. I think everyone is missing the point

The USDA is more about food stamps than farm policy.  My guess is Trump is looking for someone that can start to bring the all the welfare programs of the USDA under control, farm and non-farm.  The days of food stamps providing the basics is long past, I have read that the over priced precut fruits trays, are mostly sold to those buying with the food stamp CC.

Do you think Kip would take on really getting ag payment caps to  hold without all the loopholes? My guess is that is the first question he was asked.  Not saying he would not be a good choice, just noting the issues he will be asked to work on.

 

Good post Hobby.

Hobbyfarmer
Honored Advisor

Re: Kip Tom up the elevator at Trump Tower

 Wal Mart put them on the map AND let the genie out of the bottle over there. Would/will be very hard for the powers that be over there to survive in power if they had to go back to the old ways and a cup of rice and a fish head for the big meal of the day.

 

Brazil and Argentina don't have the finances and desire for all the plastic Chinese stuff we have had but could manage just fine without for longer than they can live without producing and eating.

 

Not a pizzing match the average citizen of either country would want to sign up for.

 

Trump did very well with his pick of ambassador to China

 

It is about time we get people with real world knowledge and a background in something besides just being a political hack or community disorganizer.

hardnox
Advisor

Re: Kip Tom up the elevator at Trump Tower

There is a 200 year tradition in our Republic of civilian oversight of the military. But since "things can't get any worse" we're abandoning that, like a lot of things- such as the inconvenient Emoluments Clause of our Constitution (thus the question about divestiture by nominees).

 

As far as things Trump "just knows" about China, I'm 100%, serenely confident that Trump knows absolutely nothing except how special he is.

0 Kudos
hardnox
Advisor

Re: Kip Tom up the elevator at Trump Tower

"Agriculture" was the #1 lobby for trade liberalization, dipsticks.

 

Mexico is also a big deal here. NAFTA devastated their small farm economy as we dumped corn and sweetener into that market.

 

As I've said, everything that is wrong with the USA began in Iowa- the roots of the immigration crisis, trade liberalization, the general neoliberal economic view, lotteries and casinos.

 

Cuz the Good People got used to voting themselves money.

 

Only partly tongue ion cheek- don;t expect anyone to ollk in the mirror and have aq light go on.

 

 

0 Kudos
jec22
Veteran Advisor

Re: Kip Tom up the elevator at Trump Tower

Hardnox,

 

You are partly right about Iowa.  You just didn't go far enough.  The root of all evil is the sin nature of man.  Yes, sin is found in Iowa, too.  Here is one Iowan that admits that about himself. The road to hell is wide.....

0 Kudos
BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Kip Tom up the elevator at Trump Tower

Our ag exports (mostly done at below our C.O.P) are the only "bright spot" in the whole NAFTA, WTO, CAFTA, free trade debacle.  It`s come at great expense to our manufacturing sector.  ...yeah yeah yeah I know I know "we manufacture more now than we did in blah blah blah" , however back in "blah blah blah" then was double digit per hour factory wages along with bennefits, now many of those workers had to settle for single digit per hour, part time wages with no bennefits.  In my half century of life, I`ve never seen anything like it, but finally we will have a fellow in the White House that acknowledges it.

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-04/about-soaring-dollar-us-trade-deficit-excluding-oil-has-nev...

 

 

 

image.pnghttp://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/11/20141104_tradeexpet1.jpg

0 Kudos
jec22
Veteran Advisor

This post won't stay here long

I was raised by a dad that lived on lard sandwiches during the depression.  He would have considered it a failure not to provide food and shelter and clothing for his family.  We were raised 'below' average on personal spending. Every tool, every piece of equipment was well maintained.  We all worked.  Fast forward.  When the 80's hit, and the bank examiners told my bank that my farm loan was no good and had to be taken off the books, the bank took it 'off the books' but kept the loan for my farm.  Our net worth was zero, and that was only because of inflated assets.  Cash flow was dependent on outside income.  Funny how those old "Iowa" character flaws stay with you. My family was eligible for free school lunch, but even with the problems we had, cut elsewhere, worked a little more, and paid for the lunches.  Maybe that is why the bank stayed with us, something about personal responsibility. Worked out well for the bank. 

I can see times that stance was not always the best business decision, could have been bigger, etc.. Still, a nice land nest egg that is paid for.

Please note the word 'SOME' in the following:

 

 

 

 

 

15036697_1179428765439332_1756829079094906658_n.jpg
hardnox
Advisor

Re: This post won't stay here long

As Thorstein Veblen predicted a century ago, the Republic would fall when the monied thugs took over.

 

In this case the point man was a phony billionaire whose tottering house of cards was saved when he got to play one on reality TV for $60M/yr. His previous claim to fame was his enshrinement in  the WWE Hall of Fame.

 

He had 5 test tube children raised by nannies and prep schools for their reality TV parts and a hooker who he came to terms with to play his wife so he'd look suitably virile.

 

Many of the apostles of Christ lined up up behind him because Jesus expected widows and orphans to quit being such parasites on the deserved lifestyles of his Good People.

0 Kudos
jec22
Veteran Advisor

Oh Hardnox

So glad you posted that. 

 

Let me fill you in why I voted for Trump.  #1  Hillary.  #2 Mike Pence. Let the Indiana guys tell me if #2 was wrong.

 

Sorry you think I am following Trump, never believed the government was my salvation (see previous posts), I follow Christ.  Work and pay taxes to uncle sam, no matter whether he is red, blue, or whatever. Had some very good years under President Obama, some not so good. Just want a lot smaller government.  Not saying it is going to happen.

 

You may be right about Trump.  But there is a saying, "you protest too much."  Maybe, just maybe, you are afraid you are wrong.

 

Either way, changes nothing for eternity.

0 Kudos
elcheapo
Veteran Advisor

Re: Oh Hardnox

well since i'm the only person on here labeled as liberal.........i guess i'm entitled to respond !  (in fairness)

 

the thing that worries me about trump.....is basicly his mouth......he says things he shouldn't, and stuff that isn't the

smart thing to say or do.......

case in point, this whole intelligence issue.....he told all the agency's they are wrong....putin is good, etc...etc.....

when you have 3 star geneals that are stunned on his reaction......i think that tellls you something.......

but i guess enough pressue from everyone, has been made, he now admits there was a problem.......

 

doing away with ACA, and not having a plan........how many of us would tear apart a piece of equipment, and not

have no idea how to fix it, or put it back together ???

 

then the newest numbers show that his proposals to get the country to get going will put us even deeper in the red...

and may not work....

 

how we were going to make mexico to build the wall...now we are............

 

you people here that want to put labels on people, just will not know how to process this but, I hope trump is successful in

lowering insurance costs (yes, i pay for my insurance, at 100%), and still have needed items such a pre-existing conditions,

basic coverage, and not have a cap on treatment.

yes, i would like to see some of the rules and regulations pulled back....one of our fertilizer business not far away will only

sell liquid or dry fertilizer, they will no longer use nh3, too many rules/regulations and insurance.

 

yes, there is some that abuse foodstamps.......but there are alot of people that count on them, and they don't use them for

booze and other stuff....they really are a help.

 

we have to look at things logically........not all rules and regs are bad.....most have a reason or basis

 

BUT....things don't look good.........such as the net worth of the top brass.....i have a feeling that the big people are going to

benefit, and they think that they will help the smaller people, i really doubt it that is true tho.  The idea of "trickle down" just

doesn't work.

 

ok start throwing your rotten fruit

 

0 Kudos