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Honored Advisor

New vaccine looks promising

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Re: New vaccine looks promising

Good news for certain. 

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Veteran Advisor

Re: New vaccine looks promising

An effective vaccine would be great but let's not forget about developing treatments as well.

There are safety protocols that need to be followed and rushing something to the market has inherent risks.

After all the years of research no vaccine for AIDS appears to be available. 

It has been dealt with thru treatments and "behavior modification".

 

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Veteran Advisor

Re: I've got to ask, why do you need a vaccine if it's just a flu?

Besides, it's just going to disappear all by itself, it'll be a miracle.

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Senior Advisor

Re: I've got to ask, why do you need a vaccine if it's just a flu?

Could be.

Drugs pass stage 1 trials all the time, get culled hard at 2nd then third etc.

Probably somewhere between 18 months and never.

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Re: New vaccine looks promising

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Honored Advisor

Re: New vaccine looks promising

Looking at the data ....... not sure a vaccine is needed.  to date in this county (20k population).,,, 900 positive cases, one death  better odds than most flu invasions.

But the odds aren't so good for businesses failing in much larger numbers...... but that appears to be the real target of the treatment.

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Honored Advisor

Re: New vaccine looks promising

I think it was 45 out of the 45 of those in the test developed antibodies that killed the Covid19 virus.  There could be side effects or something that make it that it won`t be the answer.  But they are figuring it out and no longer be going "back to square one".

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Senior Advisor

Re: New vaccine looks promising

If you follow the biotech/pharma space you'll know that companies announcing promising Phase 1 results on something are an almost daily occurrence. 

I don't know the exact number, but the percent that never make it to market is in the high 90%.

In the real world I think you need to treat this as just another hydroxychloroquine or remdisiver.

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Re: New vaccine looks promising

They developed antibodies to a greater or lesser extent. Next steps will be to determine whether those antibodies confer immunity and how much (the Oxford vaccine that was the frontrunner may have mitigated symptoms in Rhesus monkeys but didn't confer immunity- back to the drawing board). Then a question of human safety. It will be a tough call to decide how far to rush that step. If anything even gets that far I assume we'll have a form of human trials where the first doses are given to volunteers around hot spots, which would be unprecedented. That would take an additional several months to evaluate.

Being an anti-vaxxer, BA, you'll have to decide on that one and its another possible problem- the anti-vax movement is pushing hard against it.

Although I don't think this one has any Gates money behind it so may not be a plot to brain chip the population or place the mark of the beast on them. I'm not making those things up- they're out there in relatively viral form.

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