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timetippingpt
Honored Advisor

Re: Irresponsible

rsbs, you would love our pipelines, ground temps over them hit 150 every summer, grow nothing in a 6' strip all the way across the field, and no payments, not even when installed because they would cause no damage to our ability to crop 🙂

wright....it would seem you advocate filling in all the gov maintained open drainage ditches then of course. Never dredge the rivers....at least you have taken an extreme position. Congrats 🙂

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k-289
Senior Advisor

Re: Irresponsible

Interesting  reports  on  water  conditions  in  the  Racoon ,  Skunk ,  Des Moines  Rivers  water  analysis  readings , along  with  other  stream  flows  in  Iowa .  Denial  of  actions  makes  after  the  fact  of  rebuttals  &  repudiation,  a  rough  course  to  mediate -  -  -  

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Irresponsible

Good points on the water.

I suppose it’s only seen by most as trivial recreation but I’ve had members and utilizesrs of those 2 very well laid out golf course in the 2nd and 3rd communities to the West of you ask “Who can we sue? The farmers and landowners? NRCS? The DNR?” Scores of thousands in downtime revenue losses and mitigation costs have come along due to a couple of what should have been manageable rains well over into the next county. Both branches and the main stem of The Watonwan have their headwaters there. 

No idea how they continue to hang on. I just saw that there is a piece of bottom ground adjacent to one of them up for sale. Will be interesting to follow 

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wrightcattle
Veteran Advisor

Re: Irresponsible

what is most amazing is folks can tile a piece and that excess h2o simply becomes the next person's problem downhill. 

Everybody knows and nobody seems to care. 

 

wrightcattle
Veteran Advisor

Re: Irresponsible

Timetippingpt:

Keep in mind Id like to see  more water Left on Top... Sloughs cricks playas etc that's where your evaporation comes from to help prevent the next drought.. This is quite the opposite of draining more thru the gulf Thus actually helping to Cause the next drought. 

Water is a  interesting feature. 

It seems easy to get in some spots and pretty tough to find in others 

Here we have spots where you've got alot of water... And that is salt water aquifers. 

Other spots great artesian water at bout 2000ft. Others lots.  (in the desert some places BTW ) good close fresh water say 5000 gpm Wells. Always love those big plays at 30 to 100ft.

Obviously love the aetesian plays too.. Takes alot of darn dough prayer and luck to hit 1 though.  Easier to win the lotto for most.  

Brings aninteresting point.. Why have rural water when draining good topwater to the gulf? Using tile and such.. LoL. Jeez... Stupid is and stupid does. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hobbyfarmer
Honored Advisor

Re: Irresponsible

This is just stupid talk.

#1) the rivers were not drinkable in the 1800's unless you were immune to a multitude of kind of nasty organisms the fastest deadliest one being collaria...dead by dark.

There are records of water tests going back before much tile and any commercial fertilizer use.

Yep nitrates.

Some of you seem to think water runs up hill?

Why don't you google "interstate 70 road closure in Colorado.

If you want all tile lines disabled drainage ditches filled in and the whole of the midwest turned into what the pioneers found here. It might start with you ponying up the money that area generates in property taxes, jobs, and ponying up the food produced. 

Make the cities get rid of their levies, all the paved roads, storm drains, and parking lots that prevent the natural absorbing qualities  of those thousands of square miles.

All the things you espoused would lead to millions of deaths by way of starvation.

Is that your end goal?

Another North Korea grass and bug soup country?

Every 500 to 1000 years the human race seems to need a dark ages reset.

Might be closer than you want, no need to have an illusion that you will be spared.

k-289
Senior Advisor

Re: Irresponsible

Almond  crop  in  California  wish  they  had  a  tile  line  to  plug ,  as  the  Buffalo  Commons  story  unfolds  - - -

Mississippi  River  barge  traffic  is  hindered  now  , with  water  level  declines  -  -  -

  

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bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Irresponsible

If nothing else, well constructed and dutifully parroted dogma.

No doubt would have been better on FaceTime or Zoom or YouTube and we could have seen your straw hat and bib overalls and the F20 or the Holstein on grass in the background.

 

 

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roarintiger1
Honored Advisor

Re: Irresponsible

I live in the Great Black Swamp in NW Ohio. 

I will guarantee that this swamp will never come back.

 

However after a big rain, You can go up in a plane and pretty much relive where the swamp was. 

Thank God for man-made ditches and tile.

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