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Trend Line Yield Projections
Here is an interesting paper from University of Illinois which says that increased corn acres will not result in much of a change in trend line yields. Except that North Dakota is growing a lot more corn, over the last 10 years there has been a small change in corn acres from eastern to western corn belt. But, there are no big swings in corn growing locations due to more acres. In other words, increased acres are not out in some desert state where the yields will be low. Increased acres are incremental increases in the states that already grow corn and have a well established yield history. You may argue that new Iowa acres will be in the southern two tiers of counties (I don't know - just postulating a scenario) and the yields will not be the same as in the Webster prairie. Maybe that's true. But, it's not like it is dry land corn in western Nebraska, either.
Read this for yourself and make up your own mind. It's not about whether anyone's pet idea is right or wrong, it's about how the market perceives this and how the combine reveals it.
http://www.farmdocdaily.illinois.edu/2012/04/little_change_in_where_corn_is.html
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those increases in the prime cornbelt states are COC............the article references IL and COC yield reductions.........COC presents challanges and risk along with amplifying problems to another order of magnitude when things go south.........and if things go well it usually doesn't blow the lid off things...........so its a net neutral or negative acre in terms of driving yields..........you tell a guy you want to do a yield contest field, he is likely going to put it on soybean stubble........not COC..........
as for states on the fringes, they carry weather risk as well, thats why they are considered on the fringe...........if it doesnt rain this summer in ND, SD, NE and KS you will then know why wheat used to be king............
I hope it paste correctly below, but I took the top 5 states in terms of corn acres...........you can see that rough estimates of COC in those states..........IL is 29%, IA is 34%, IN is 11%, MN is 12%, NE is 50%...........the point is they are all above ZERO, thus any new acres are risky COC............
Illinois | ||||||
Corn | Soya | Ratio | Corn/Soya | Corn Yield | State/US | |
2003 | 11.2 | 10.3 | 8.035714 | 21.5 | 164 | 1.1533052 |
2004 | 11.75 | 9.95 | 15.31915 | 21.7 | 180 | 1.1221945 |
2005 | 12.1 | 9.5 | 21.4876 | 21.6 | 143 | 0.9668695 |
2006 | 11.3 | 10.1 | 10.61947 | 21.4 | 163 | 1.093226 |
2007 | 13.2 | 8.3 | 37.12121 | 21.5 | 175 | 1.1612475 |
2008 | 12.1 | 9.2 | 23.96694 | 21.3 | 179 | 1.1630929 |
2009 | 12 | 9.4 | 21.66667 | 21.4 | 174 | 1.0564663 |
2010 | 12.6 | 9.1 | 27.77778 | 21.7 | 157 | 1.0274869 |
2011 | 12.6 | 8.9 | 29.36508 | 21.5 | 157 | 1.0665761 |
Indiana | ||||||
Corn | Soya | Ratio | Corn/Soya | Corn Yield | State/US | |
2003 | 5.6 | 5.45 | 2.678571 | 11.05 | 146 | 1.0267229 |
2004 | 5.7 | 5.55 | 2.631579 | 11.25 | 168 | 1.0473815 |
2005 | 5.9 | 5.4 | 8.474576 | 11.3 | 154 | 1.0412441 |
2006 | 5.5 | 5.7 | -3.63636 | 11.2 | 157 | 1.0529846 |
2007 | 6.5 | 4.8 | 26.15385 | 11.3 | 154 | 1.0218978 |
2008 | 5.7 | 5.45 | 4.385965 | 11.15 | 160 | 1.0396361 |
2009 | 5.6 | 5.45 | 2.678571 | 11.05 | 171 | 1.0382514 |
2010 | 5.9 | 5.35 | 9.322034 | 11.25 | 157 | 1.0274869 |
2011 | 5.9 | 5.3 | 10.16949 | 11.2 | 146 | 0.9918478 |
Iowa | ||||||
Corn | Soya | Ratio | Corn/Soya | Corn Yield | State/US | |
2003 | 12.3 | 10.6 | 13.82114 | 22.9 | 157 | 1.1040788 |
2004 | 12.7 | 10.2 | 19.68504 | 22.9 | 181 | 1.1284289 |
2005 | 12.8 | 10.1 | 21.09375 | 22.9 | 173 | 1.1697093 |
2006 | 12.6 | 10.15 | 19.44444 | 22.75 | 166 | 1.1133467 |
2007 | 14.2 | 8.65 | 39.08451 | 22.85 | 171 | 1.1347047 |
2008 | 13.3 | 9.75 | 26.69173 | 23.05 | 171 | 1.1111111 |
2009 | 13.6 | 9.6 | 29.41176 | 23.2 | 182 | 1.1050395 |
2010 | 13.4 | 9.8 | 26.86567 | 23.2 | 165 | 1.0798429 |
2011 | 14.1 | 9.35 | 33.68794 | 23.45 | 172 | 1.1684783 |
Minnesota | ||||||
Corn | Soya | Ratio | Corn/Soya | Corn Yield | State/US | |
2003 | 7.2 | 7.5 | -4.16667 | 14.7 | 146 | 1.0267229 |
2004 | 7.5 | 7.3 | 2.666667 | 14.8 | 159 | 0.9912718 |
2005 | 7.3 | 6.9 | 5.479452 | 14.2 | 174 | 1.1764706 |
2006 | 7.3 | 7.35 | -0.68493 | 14.65 | 161 | 1.0798122 |
2007 | 8.4 | 6.35 | 24.40476 | 14.75 | 146 | 0.9688122 |
2008 | 7.7 | 7.05 | 8.441558 | 14.75 | 164 | 1.065627 |
2009 | 7.6 | 7.2 | 5.263158 | 14.8 | 174 | 1.0564663 |
2010 | 7.7 | 7.4 | 3.896104 | 15.1 | 177 | 1.158377 |
2011 | 8.1 | 7.1 | 12.34568 | 15.2 | 156 | 1.0597826 |
Nebraska | ||||||
Corn | Soya | Ratio | Corn/Soya | Corn Yield | State/US | |
2003 | 8.1 | 4.55 | 43.82716 | 12.65 | 146 | 1.0267229 |
2004 | 8.25 | 4.8 | 41.81818 | 13.05 | 166 | 1.0349127 |
2005 | 8.5 | 4.7 | 44.70588 | 13.2 | 154 | 1.0412441 |
2006 | 8.1 | 5.05 | 37.65432 | 13.15 | 152 | 1.01945 |
2007 | 9.4 | 3.87 | 58.82979 | 13.27 | 160 | 1.061712 |
2008 | 8.8 | 4.9 | 44.31818 | 13.7 | 163 | 1.0591293 |
2009 | 9.15 | 4.8 | 47.54098 | 13.95 | 178 | 1.0807529 |
2010 | 9.15 | 5.15 | 43.71585 | 14.3 | 166 | 1.0863874 |
2011 | 9.85 | 4.9 | 50.25381 | 14.75 | 160 | 1.0869565 |
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It would only be rational to REMEMBER that there is also weather risk of a GOOD crop on marginal acres.
We have had fields that went 145 last year, do over 215 in a good year. Neighbors with fields over gravel went 75 last year, did 204 in the last good year. It goes both ways.
Oooppss, sorry, rational news is not bullish. Back to the tile plow.
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Some perspective on added acres for corn .
All the fuss about extra acres lowering the trendline yield is not worth worrying about compared to what the seasons weather brings. If you take 91 mil acres times 150bu/acre, you get 13.65 bil bu. If you add 4 mil acres that only yields 100 bu/acre, you add 400 mil bu,or .4bil bu for a total of 14.05 bil bu. Average yield is now 147.7 bu. on 95 mil acres. So 4 mil added acres at a lousy 100 yield only drops the average 2.3 bu/acre. Big whoop. One good timely rain in the corn belt is probably worth 4 times that.
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http://www.nass.usda.gov/Charts_and_Maps/Field_Crops/cornyld.asp
Simple extrapolation of the trendline on NASS cahrt above puts trned 158-9 ish. (Sorry Monsanta/NCGA, it isn't at the 170ish that you assured congress it would be at in the ethanol hearings. However, people are rarely called to account for giving specious, self serving opinions to congress even if they are for more important matters like WMDs, so don't worry.)
Extreme upside outlier years like 92, 94, 2004 topped trend by 10-12 bushels. So 170ish seems doable with exceptional weather.
However I must admit that my anarchistic streak sort of hopes for a 130 just so I can see what a train wreck looks like.
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Corn on corn in Iowa or Illinois is likely as good or better than corn on sagebrush as some believe we will see. The people who made the study knew they were talking COC acres for the increase in the top 6 producing states, according to a radio interview I heard this morning.
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A simply excellent point Nox! Excellent. Going to be hard to get to 300, if we can't even do 170 🙂
Your anti-ethanol views will of course bring you ridicule, or maybe a visit from a guy in a black car. 🙂
My math says we can do 175/6 if the weather is like 1994 (which we are actually lining up with in a fashion - warm/dry spring.)
Might be more important to be worried about interest rates.