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SteveBD1
Contributor

Trump Failed on Trade and Ethanol says Democratic Farm Forum.

One last desperate attempt by Creepy Joe to get your vote.  Why do the Democrats always run the most corrupt person in their party for President.  Old Joe has never cared about agriculture. If there is a pawn that has used agriculture you wouldn't have to look any farther than Joe and the Democrats. Pretty sure Old Joe was standing and applauding the day Bill Clinton said " America Doesn't Need Farmers."  Just check out his voting record if you think he cares about farmers.  Joe was right up front when they allowed trade with a communist country. I'm sick of seeing Made in China stamped on every machinery part.  As far as Ethanol goes Trump should have fired everyone in the EPA. 

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timetippingpt
Honored Advisor

Re: Trump Failed on Trade and Ethanol says Democratic Farm Forum.

I think being a bit more open minded and honest is a better approach.

To say Trump failed on trade is true at this point, but only with one country. He has kind of knocked it out of the park with many many other countries. And, for anyone like Joe to claim that he would have done better is silly. 100,000's of jobs coming back to North America, not usa necessarily, but Canada and Mexico are building some huge projects. Ag has always benefitted from shipping manufacturing jobs overseas, just our turn to be on the wrong end with one big customer. That silence you hear from the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD....should tell you that they all are praying we stand up to China. Joe winning assures some pretty bad outcomes for all, not just a few NA farmers.

Now, ethanol, I just can't see any way to avoid admitting that the Trump policy of SRE is just a terrible politcial mistake. It is clearly NOT a FREE MARKET mistake. So many of us free market types like to forget we are free market when it impacts our mandated markets :-)     SRE's are clearly a way to let the markets work, as opposed to mandates, but this is politics not markets, So, how about we just admit it and learn from it and move on. Lots of other reasons to still vote for right side of the ballot. 

Liberal leadership of our big cities for decades, or even a century in some spots , is working out so well after all.

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illinifarmer
Advisor

Re: Trump Failed on Trade and Ethanol says Democratic Farm Forum.

Trump is a failed crooked businessman who was a reality tv host.  He’s never payed taxes in NY on any of his projects. Filed for bankruptcy on every casino and you think joe is corrupt? Wow.  How’s that Trump foundation, Trump college, Trump stakes doing ? All a scam and shut down now.  Mercy just do like the minimum amount of research.  You think he cares about farmers? Well the last 4 years tells a different story.  .. On a side note grains finishing August with a bang huh?  Should have held off on that headline here this morning.  Flat on the day.  Almost like a play out of the USDA, just go ahead and print it without waiting for the reality.  Nothing but negative weather, crop conditions, and sales out the door and they still find a way to wipe it out for the close. Sad

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erikjohnson61y
Veteran Advisor

Re: Trump Failed on Trade and Ethanol says Democratic Farm Forum.

The perfect candidate does not exist. No matter who is running, there will be something to disagree about. I like a president who is openly patriotic and stands up for our country. IMHO, Trump is the best president since Reagan in that regard. I also like USMCA, and I like the trade deal with Europe, and I like a peace accord between Israel and UAE with hopefully more to come, I like fewer of our boys in Europe and none of our boys in Iraq or Afghanistan (hopefully soon). I like that Kim Jong Fat isn't flying missiles over Japan anymore. I like 300 conservative judges confirmed to the various levels of the courts. I like his stance in immigration - legal immigrants - great! Illegal immigrants - Build that Wall (Fence). 290 miles and counting fast. I like the trade deal with China - to call that a failure is to conclude that your team lost when you're down 5-2 in the 6th. I'm reserving judgement until Jan 31 when the first year is complete.  Do I think the Chinese will fulfill the commitment if Biden is elected? Do I even have to answer that? I like that our military is strong enough that no one really challenges us outside of the South China Sea. I like that nobody remembers ISIS or Al-Baghdadi anymore. I like that my taxes went down, mainly due to the increase in the standard deduction.

I wish both parties realized that they are playing with fire with a $27 trillion debt. I wish Trump did a better job on refinery waivers, but he did authorize E15 nationwide, so e-sales should gradually increase as the pumps are changed out (I run E30 in my 2015 pickup all the time - 1 mpg better than E10 and the same as regular). I also wish Trump were more in favor of renewable energy where it makes economic sense - I support wind energy and have served on the board of a wind development company, and my state now gets 70% of its electricity from renewables (admittedly a big chunk of hydro).

But if I put up the ledger of what I like about Trump's policies vs. what I like about Biden's promises (he hasn't done anything yet), it's no contest. MAGA Baby!!

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Trump Failed on Trade and Ethanol says Democratic Farm Forum.

The communist Chinese screwed us for 30 years, I don`t see how one could expect it be resolved in 2 years.

sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Trump Failed on Trade and Ethanol says Democratic Farm Forum.

1-Dems are expecting to loose in nominating joe and a running mate that will not deliver a red state(new voters to the party) — a vp without a supporting voter base.

2.  20+ hopeful new candidates are being protected from the lose.  

3.  The obvious hatred for those who like roundAbouts stinks.  Dems like stoping everyone at the decision point and then telling them what they are allowed to do—with the administration scam paid.  Those who think on the go and go where they want are intolerable to the dems. —No chance to hijack their cars or steal their wealth 

4- Amazon puppets destroying the competition using color and selfies to record the process. 

5.  Technology favors totalitarian governments   -Citizen controlled governance is hard.  Cell phone trackers

the left is protecting its radical leadership in media and joe won’t feel the pain of the lose.

trump has been skilled at poking the stick at the snake.  A few targets have felt the backlash.  We will stay the course to clean out the corrupt politics  imo

 

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Trump Failed on Trade and Ethanol says Democratic Farm Forum.

Be honest.

He failed miserably on both counts but he's paying you off, and will continue to if reelected. I doubt that a D majority Senate would codify the slush payments, but I don't think they'll challenge the legality or withdraw the CCC authority.

End of story.

BTW, I'm guessing that you must be saying that reauthorizing The Worst Deal Ever with a few minor tweeks and some help from Pelosi was "hitting it out of the park?"

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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Trump Failed on Trade and Ethanol says Democratic Farm Forum.

First of all, most of the "checks sent out" were due to Covid disruptions.   Second of all, the money was there because of the tariff revenue.   Oh I know I know I know "the US consuuuuumers pay the tariffs!!!!" and I say as they should for the SIN of buying slave labor produced crap from a communist nation!

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-collects-63-billion-in-chinese-tariffs-through-june-11565168400  

snip

U.S. Collected $63 Billion in Tariffs Through June

Treasury’s haul accelerated last year after Trump administration imposed new tariffs in retaliation for what it said were unfair business practices

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Trump Failed on Trade and Ethanol says Democratic Farm Forum.

Those were, of course, taxes on US consumers and businesses.

Wonder ‘ol Grover didn’t have a cow.

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sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Trump Failed on Trade and Ethanol says Democratic Farm Forum.

Looking at the most optimistic composition of the Senate that I can come up with, nothing very radical is going to happen.

That won’t keep the same folks who are just fine with wrecking the farm and now general economy and making up the difference by borrowing $Ts from squealing like fence stuck shoats.

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