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Blacksandfarmer
Veteran Advisor

Re: Why no CRP discussion?

Ethanol Watcher, you need to ask yourself how much money you want to pay for gas in the coming years. It's a proven fact that once gas prices go over $4, the economy slows down even more, past $5, it ceases entirely. Nobody can make hay and pasture ground come back this year and you can feed straight corn to cattle without a little roughage i.e. hay or silage. Just because inputs like corn and soybean meal are high for the livestock guys, that doesn't mean the prices for their product are bad. Beef, pork, and chicken prices were pretty decent last I knew. Yeah those who raise livestock will feel the sting of this year's drought prices for grain but won't we all? Do you really think grain farmers in the hardest-hit drought regions will get all their input money back even with good insurance and crop prices? NO!!! If you guys want cheaper grain, raise it yourself! YOU come up with the money to pay for land rent/ownership, equipment costs, labor, insurance, and so forth, upwards of $500/ac. Take the gamble you get rain without hail, frost, and high winds...or you get no rain at all!!! Ethanol may or may not be a fuel for the future, but it is a start! Ethanol creates jobs for people in rural communities that otherwise wouldn't be there and pays rural communities here in the Midwest rather than those in Iraq or Iran. All who seek to use this drought as the scapegoat for putting the nail in ethanol's coffin can seal your kids' and grandkids' coffins in the next oil war. I will not send my kids of grandkids off to get slaughtered for your greed.

 

P.S. Please tell me how ethanol production is "immoral." I can't find anywhere in the Bible that says, "Thou shalt not make renewable fuels."

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sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Why no CRP discussion?

Ethanol Watcher,

 

Your concerned about the environment in your first statement---------

 

Then in your second paragraph---------to hell with the environment---------stop blending ethanol

 

------the last three years are the least taxpayer dollars to corn farmers in at least 40 years.

 

 

 

 

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sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Why no CRP discussion?

CRPPPPPPPPPPPPP.  belongs to the hunting lobby and environmentals.  Like food stamps--------it ain't ours.   CRP has been promised to the cellulostic alcohol folks.  Do we shut those down?

 

Most of it is out in 30 bpa country---------on a good year.  And I for one can remember the last of the dirt storms rolling in from the southwest.----1959-60.   We are struggling to have enough cover on CRP in this drought as it is.

$8 corn will probably get most of it broken out as the young guys and investors(with no memory) get excited.  But it is not going to make much production difference---without water.  New irrigation water development is prohibited most everywhere.

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DW11
Veteran Contributor

Re: Why no CRP discussion?

Ethanol Watcher,

 

I feel bad for you and don't want you to starve.  I didn't realize you were eating field corn to stay alive.  Please stop by the farm and I will give you all the No. 2 Yellow corn that you can eat.  

 

Sincerely, 

The American Farmer

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smokeyjay
Advisor

Re: Why no CRP discussion?

The senate version of the new farm bill proposes to reduce CRP acres to 25 or 26 million acers, I believe. Only the least sensitive acres and those that are good soils with minimal conservation work would be encouraged to go out. They anticipate the marketplace will determine that as land owners work to capture higher returns.
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idalivered
Advisor

Re: Why no CRP discussion?

ne 50, good call

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scmnfarmer
Contributor

Re: Why no CRP discussion?

Fuel from food. Has not the farmer always provided transportation fuel. Except for recent times animals provided transportation. In parts of the world they still do.

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