Why no CRP discussion?

[Kstater85]

Bunch of discussion about the "civil war" now going on between crop and livestock farmers.  I have not heard much discussion about something that they both could agree on.   Why not open up the 29M acres that we have in reserve?   Wouldn't that create enough grain for both livestock and ethanol?

[roarintiger1]

Not for at least 12 months.

[Nebrfarmr]

In the drought areas, it has already been released for haying and grazing. 

I don't know about where you are, but around here, I don't know if I would want to farm some of the CRP ground, even if you guaranteed me $8 a bushel corn, for the next 5 years.  Some has been broken out here and there, and we had ONE rain this spring over 1", it was between 1.5" and 1.75", and I could not belive the gullies, washes, and such that formed on it, from just that one rain.  In a normal year, there would be no way to cross them with a combine.  I think the guy's late Grandpa knew what he was doing, when he re-established grass on those hills.

[Hobbyfarmer]

There has been limited discussion here about a one or two year out and back in waver on CRP . I for one would have no interest in that as do you have any idea of the cost to reseed it back would be?

[Ethanol Watcher]

Your right, I think the best thing to do is take all our marginal and environmentally sensitive land and put it into corn production!!!!  Its more important to earn an extra dollar than to take care of the environment.  These farmers never cease to amaze me!  

The only real answer is to OUTLAW THE PRODUCTION OF FUEL FROM FOOD!!!!  Making fuel from food is by default immoral people.  The corn ethanol component of RFS will be repealed at some point -- it has to be or we will all starve to death.  I don't think the rich corn farmers around my house would care as long as another dollar of taxpayer money finds its way into their greedy pockets.

[ne 50]

hate to tell you this but... my number 2 yellow dent corn is not food for humans... it is food for animals and ethanol plants if you want more human quality corn, peas, etc. pay up... my ground raises products in order to produce a living and hopefully a profit for my family.  If human quality produce was more profitable I sure would raise it because i could use the money.. just like you.. who I assume worked for a living instead of volunteering all those years at your local homeless shelter or safe house to help out others in need

I'm just saying.... if you'd have paid your fair share and made it more profitable for me to raise 'garden goods' for you when number 2 yellow dent corn was cheap and I was just getting by ( which has been most of my 35 year farming life) you wouldn't have anything to bitch about...

BTW my wheat is made into bread and cakes and doughnuts however even at 9.00 per bushel you're still paying me only 20 cents or less per loaf for my wheat... is that too much?  I think not....

BTW it wasn't that long ago when i was raising corn for 1.85 a bushel and that went into cattle and hogs so you could have your cheap 2.50 Burger King whooper and 5.00 bucket of chicken and 1.85 per pound baby back ribs.. so you could waste your money on overpriced electronics. pro-sports tickets, and high price wine... maybe I should have been raising hops and barley all those years so the beer would be cheaper for you to cry in...

Oh I know that the price of corn will come down and probably to a level where I will just get by again!

[ne 50]

sorry just had to vent.... I finally make a decent living off all the work and money I have invested over the years on this farm and am just tired of being chastised for it. I don't begrudge anyone for making good money selfemplyed or emplyeed by someone else.-

the biggest rewards go to those who take the biggest risks!

[Slim123]

My corn is going to the highest bidder. If it is that important they will bid up to get. When corn was a buck ninety, no end users gave me more money then the market price. If a farmer thinks he getting too much money for his crop, by all means he can sell it for a few dollars less to some end user. You know they would do the same for you.

Most CRP is there for a reason.

[roarintiger1]

Well ethanol watcher, I hope you watch the ethanol production increase over the next 10 years. That way, my sons will be too old to join the army and risk their lives defending YOUR precious oil with those profits going to some middle eastern shiek.

I have stated this before that I don't believe there has been American blood shed protecting the ethanol supply.

[farsider]

Attacking ethanol here, doing something far worse maybe vandalizing your neighbors property? Ethanol plants? I hope for your neighbors safety that someone is watching you.