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been awhile
havn't been on this board in years, but I have a powerline wanting to come through my farm and I'm looking for some input. Ok with it except, i am an irrigation guy. that pole goes in the wrong place and it's a bad day for farmer Brown. they have already approved imminent domain for this company, that's the Illinois Commerce Commission. (Rock Island Clean Lilne) they have already paid off the county board to the tune of $7,000/ mile promised. I have been to all the meetings and advised them not to go through irrigation territory. If they do go through my farm and I disapprove of the placement of poles, how fight? This is seed corn country, if it ain't irrigated, it ain't seed corn or vegetables. Approximately 25 miles of this will screw up a lot of irrigated sand. Today's value of that irrigated acre is probably peanuts compared to 50 years from now. I've told them if they come through this route noone will want to give up one acre of irrigated ground. The question is if they want to proceed and not recognize the value of an irrigate acre, what is the best plan to fight it? Not opposed to progress but this is trying to put a square wooden peg the size of a bull's *&*($%$ through the eye of a needle! This company had no friggin idea what an irrigator was at the first meeting and a year later at the next town meeting they had all the answers! I'm sure my fellow growers and I will band together, but has anyone out there fought something like this and won? If so how? Help!!!
PS this is the same county (Whiteside Illinois) that just gave more respect to a turtle that may or may not be in the prairie than people's houses next to windmills. Half mile for turtles, 1/4 mile for people's houses! Gotta love government.
Ya I know this is the wrong place for this post, but since when has that stopped anyone from posting the wrong thing here? If you aren't interested quit reading this thread!
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Re: been awhile
Illinois993243 have you asked the power company to run lines down the sides of roads to keep the poles out of the fields? Could you run travelers in the fields with power lines? Make it abundantly clear to your county board that if these lines go through rich farmland, that would depreciate the value of the irrigated land, thus reducing the taxable amount they could receive from you in the future.
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Re: been awhile
The only way you can fight this is with one word. Money. If you can gather all the landowners together and break down your share by the acre you might be able to put up a fight. This is similar to a drainage project where some landowners will want to participate and others will want you to fight it with no financial support. You'll need an attorney experienced in fighting eminent domain, not the guy that does your taxes. You'll be shocked at what it could cost, but you don't have much choice. You have a better chance if the irrigation equipment is already operating, rather than if you plan on installing it later. They never want to hear what the land could be used for, they only want to pay what is it worth today.
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Re: been awhile
It's been talked about, but your asking a politician to think about a future politicians budget.
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Re: been awhile
I attempted to be proactive and band the growers together before the ICC hearing and hire an attorney out of Chicago with experience in these matters. No interest. Now it is starting to heat up and the route has been chosen, but not announced which one yet. (The other route gos through some fellow growers irrigated fields in another part of the county.) I believe this is a project that will go through and someone is going to pay dearly. I would bet the farm that if we all offered the county $8,000 / mile that suddenly they would be against the project, gotta love politicians. My question is has anyone out there ever fought the eminent domain and won? If so could you please give me your attorney's name!
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Re: been awhile
Emminent Domain is very hard to fight and is very costly. Unfortunately, the government has already picked its location with the analysis for construction budget so if you do not have an alternative for the government to do the project else where then I might guess that it might be a done deal.
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Re: been awhile
illinois993243,
Welcome back! We always enjoy hearing from the wayward sons and daughters. I hope you are able to come to a comfortable solution. By the way, could you offer up a few marketing thoughts, while you are here? What does the basis look like in your area? Are you hearing of any harvest yields? And what about marketing this year's crops? Are your neighbors over 50% sold, or are folks hanging on to what they harvest?
Thanks for sharing and welcome back,
Mike
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Re: been awhile
They ran a powerline through not all that far from where I am, and I thought the landowners came up with a pretty clever solution.
They got maps out, of the proposed powerline route, and overlaid it, with a map that showed the irrigation in the area.
They then, got all the landowners together, and made an agreement on a few things (that alone seems like a challenge to me).
What they did, is overlay the two maps, and point out to the power company where the poles/lines would interfere with an existing pivot, or irrigation/drainage ditch, and sat down with them, and discussed the route. Basically, what they said, was that the powerline ran across about 20 farms, and the company could either add a couple corners, here and there, to not disrupt the irrigation systems, or they could fight every farmer on the list.
Long story short, they added 4-5 more little bends in the line, and the line and poles run so that all existing pivots can go like they always did, and the other irrigators can still use the canals and ditches they always did. The landowners were satisfied, the county board was satisfied, and the power company got some good PR, about how they worked 'with' local landowners, rather than steamroll over them with eminent domain. I think if the farmers would have approached them one by one, instead of as a group, it might not have been so rosy for them, though. However the threat of fighting 20 farmers if the stopped the pivot of any one of them, did the trick.
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Re:Placed towers on ½ mile Lines
Probly same line Nebrfarmr referenced, Power company bent over backwards for pivots. Line stayed on ½ mile lines and they used 90 degree corner towers etc, & spaced towers to miss ¼ mile line where pivot end was longest, even jogged slightly if pivot was on odd shape, to allow pivot field pattern.
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Re: Basis, nc sales
New crop, -.20 oct corn. Was -.25 week ago. -.33 soya del to procccessor. Old crop +.20 to +.23 ethol, -.05 to +.20 elevators. Sold 65% aph corn(started too early !!), 50% soy yld of 45 bpa. Dryland corn looks to be 25-75 bpa(lots cut silage),soya 10-25 bpa. Irr corn est 175-185 bpa, soya 45-55. Some early harvesting, have'nt heard ylds or moisture. Yields are guesses!