feedyard talk 6/24. ..........Is this fixable???

[sdholloway56]

Fertilizer is absolutely an oligopolistic cartel.

Happened almost instantaneously after private’s pried the last of the major fertilizer assets away from Co-ops.

Although actual Co-ops not generally remembered fondly by the farming remnant.

“What do you mean, one farm one vote”

[sdholloway56]

Which sounds suspiciously like communism, or sumpthin’.

[sdholloway56]

With the exception of a few very good local outfits, Co-ops now mostly just an excuse for the Co-Bank wing of Farm Credit to continue to exist.

[sw363535]

K-289

Regardless of the fool scammer that has joined into this discussion ----- I really would like to know where you think this subject should go?

Is it a regulation/activist/usda problem as I think or just natural evolution?

Where would you like to see it go....?  Off shore and come back as Organic?  which is where sd would push it.......

[sdholloway56]

Seems like  place where the Bundy Posse could actually make themselves useful.

[BA Deere]

Well, what do we all agree on?  Let`s start with that.   Beef packers are making $800/hd too much and we need to "do leg work to get our legislature to change that".  Let`s quantify that, about $60/cwt live cattle or about $1/lb for beef ($8 hamburger goes to $7     whoopty-doo)  

So, you do "legwork" and rile up "urban politicians" against the packers, so who gets the $800?  The choices are 1. the producer? (who i think most of you are figuring will get it)    2. The consumer?  (that`s the only way you`ll get urban lawmakers to side with you)  3. The packer?  (they`ll always get their "$800")  even if it means taking $1600 to get it.  4. The retail grocery store?  If the packer charges too much they won`t buy it and will as always charge what the market will bear.

I`m not saying "do nothing" but this has been going on for decades, the 50-100hd feeder is done and now the ante is 2,000/hd plus to walk in the high stakes room.    The guy in the Stetson isn`t portrayed as a victim, but rather "Cliven Bundy"  racist, sexist, homophobe, greedy and responsible for global warming...."if he goes broke, good riddance!"  As much as the Left hates the packing industry, they probably hate the individuals with a gunrack in their pickup more.

How do you convince AOC, Pelosi, Biden, Tina Smith, Durbin, Chuck Schumer and the idiots that voted for them to do a solid for the farmer?   That`s right, I don`t know either.   At least farm state GOP politicians have the right ideas, just not in the national majority.

[k-289]

It  will  go  were  it  goes,  with  re-election  cycles  of  long  running  ,  life  time  politicians  -  -  -

How  does  wording  like '' oligopoly ''   suddenly  appear ,   to  perform  an  alligator  tear  parade,  from  a  politician  catching  the  dickens  from  Cattle  Folks  that  belong  to  a  outfit  like  R- Calf  -  -  -

I  ''''  HERD  ''''  a  gentleman  state  that  due  to  inflation ,  if  &  when  the  $3.oo  bill  becomes  currency ,  on  the  face  of  it ,   the applications  of  political  candidates  having  an endless  line  around  the  block ,  with  very  little  hints  of remorse  -  -  -

Seems  Buffalo  Common  &  Flies  Over  Country , get  an  occasional  lip  service ,  of  regenerative  rural  economic  development ,  and  lots  of  ca$h   for  Equip  Funding  &  BIG  TAX  INCENTIVES  for  Mega  America  -  -  -

Don't  forget  the  encouragement  of  legal ( documented )  labor  pools  of  cheap ( inexpensive )  folks ,  to  replace  the  few ,  farm  kids  migration  to  urban  settings  -  -  -

Hopefully  , some  how  we  can  get  a  handle  on  that  E  W  G  outfit ,  displaying  those  CONservative  expenditures  that  I  am  reminded  of  on  a  regular  bases  from  my  relatives  in  the  city ,  when  they  step  up  to  the  meat  counter  -  -  - 

Boarded  up  , vacancies  along  US  54 , used  to  exist  only  between  Tucumcari  &  Albuquerque ,  and  now  they  migrate  Eastward  -  -  -            

[k-289]

BA  -  isn't  it  interesting  how  those  cotton  picking ,  tobacco  hoeing , workers  from  a  few  centuries  ago ,  preforming  tasks  for  those  large  property  ( estates ) , would  cause  such  a  daunting  issues  for  the US  now - ? 

Makes  it  impossible  to  explain , rationalize  the  word  CHEAP  -  -  - 

Marketing  continuz  to  be  a  challenge ,  even  for  those  D D G  commodities  -  -  -   

[BA Deere]

Hey K-289.  nothing is 'cheap", the cheap workers at the packing plants are subsidized by the taxpayers.  Harris goes to El Paso at nicest part of the border for a photo op..."all`s well on the southern front!".

I don`t worry about marketing, it seems to work itself out.   The smartest marketers eventually get humbled, might as well, do the best you can and always be bullish.  But there ain`t a horse that`s never been rode or a cowboy that`s never been throwed.

Ethanol plant at Winnebago Minnesota is opening up again, so good news!

https://www.mankatofreepress.com/news/local_news/winnebago-ethanol-plant-to-restart-in-fall-teaming-...

[k-289]

My    """  virtual  haircut ''''  business  is  Thrivent -ing  ,  no  inflation  and  pricing  is  stable  -  -  -

Wait  till  the  conversation  starts  with  D C  needing  a  Senator ,  rather  than  2  from  the  FLIES  Over  States with  half  the  population  -  step  right  up , place  your  bets  -  -  -