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sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: our markets have left

Wright you better stick to cattle.  Economics and your idea of history needs some reality.  If your right, then the drive buy spectators caused the accident.  

There are no other answers that start with politics.. only parasites and a few insects swarming that seem to carry Mid East diseases. 

Every administration pays the price for the predecessors mistakes. We used to know that, and have better memories before memory, history, finance, and science were bred out of us.  Now all we know how to do is ask google and scary serie.   

rsbs
Veteran Advisor

Re: our markets have left

SW, agree with you and others about how a president deals with what went on before he came to office. Obama was out to be a transformational president, like Reagan, and instead was more of a custodian, continuing drone attacks to stir up hornets nests in the middle east, and spending money like his drunken sailor predecessor GB, Jr. Those two have put America into a financial hole that I , quite frankly, think we may not get out of without a solution no one will like. Both tried to be Santa Claus, handing out entitlement expansions and saddling our descendants with more unfunded liabilities.

Clinton was a centrist, and a populist, who moistened his finger each morning by sticking it....well, lets not go there....and putting it up in the air to see which way the wind was blowing and making his political decisions accordingly. The republican Contract for America....who implemented most of that? Who was the POTUS that signed most of that....reduced welfare by making work the goal...who said that marriage was the union of a man and a woman....who said the goal was to make abortion rare, like a good steak? Aside from his lack of morals, BJ Clinton was a pretty solid conservative when it came to governing , and to say that the one year of his eight that they were able to say the budget was balanced (and inflows never did match outflows, even then) was attributable to liberal polices is just distorting the truth.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: our markets have left

I`ll give Bubba this much credit (and I do mean it as a compliment) he didn`t muck things up.  The media reported a "Recession coming! Recession coming!" to 86 Bush #41`s re election (sound familiar?)  instead a recovery was coming and Bubba capitalized on it.  What does anyone remember about the 90`s? Well, we had a tech boom, everyone was buying personal computers and the consumer economy boomed.  Jim Cramer was plugging stocks, monkeys throwing darts at a list of stocks that returned annual double digits.  Bubba stayed pretty much out of foreign entanglements, outside of bombing a asprin factory in Kosovo (or wherever the hell it was) to cover up his Lewinsky. 

2000 the books were cooked, pulling forward revenue and pushing back spending to help Algore get elected.  The Tech Bust happened and then 911 and here ya go George W Bush, sucks to be you heh heh heh.   So yeahClinton was dealt a good hand and played it safely, that is saying a lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble

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k-289
Senior Advisor

Re: our markets have left

FAKE   MEAT's   appearance,   and  timing  at  the  podium  seems  to  have  the  look  of  a  perfect  storm  -  -  -

HUUUGE   headline,  lots  of  press,  along  with  the  5  minute  attention  span  of  the  commitment  cycle  -  -  -

Hula hoops  idealism  blurps ,   and  the  ever  increasing  infestation  of  ''  leveraged  margin  debt ''  being  the  last  chair  in  the  room - has  no  conscience  -   -   -    

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k-289
Senior Advisor

Re: our markets have left

Oh,  our  latest  on  the  menu,  Green - land   Tea ,  hurry ,   it  won't  last  long  -  -  -    

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sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: our markets have left

As a back up plan for agriculture,  better learn to live lean and endure this for another term...... the hate party is doing  nothing to win..... in fact they are just constantly reminding us how this one got elected even though "they don't want to talk about it".  The past just keeps popping up as a reminder of how they lost power...... jerimandering districts gave us new young representatives with no knowledge but full of "philosophy"and in front of the foolish media cameras constantly is not a good sell. Clinton(Bill) brought the party power by "being a reasonably centrist to get things done and slimy "likable".  Hillary never found the keys to "likeable"... could never shed the slimy "lawyer" appearance.  Centrist will not be allowed in the party of hate these days.... .......... and now the present is not tweeting from the underdog position.  Media has been called out for what they have been since the radical 70's and keeps stepping into the punch.  Too arogant to duck or find a path to honor.  

So I think you find a way to survive another 4 years without left welfare and accept righthand gifts when they come.  Lay low and wait for the mud to get stomped out of DC.  And expect there to be a little more integrity in the future....

If we swing so far left that we start locking up those with israeli ties,  independent agriculture will be gone anyway.  If we land right we still have to deal with the mistakes of 2008 when we borrowed our way out of economic reality.(delayed the hurt for future taxpayers)  And lets face it Left or Right we can't afford the debt congress accumulates on its tea trips to Rome.  The descent that is planted in our fringe is another expense we don't need to pay for.  Those who encourage protests in word won't help clean up the messes.(even if it is Portland or any other "sanctuary", it is one of ours and we will pay the price for cleaning up the mess.)

Usda is still far left..... if you don't believe that look at the FSA loan rates.  Those are the levels they will support for commodities.......regardless of economic realities...... congress led by democrats creates the monopoly conditions we live with (centralizing commerce and power in larger entities they think they can control through regulation....foolish...... international corporations don't have to live under US laws and our legislature is so dumb that they encourage foreign nationals to sign up for social security.)  Congress has not written a farm bill with anything new since 1996 when clinton chose to let it slide and hold it together with food stamp welfare which became equal to cash handouts in 2008.  Congress transfered the power to the department employees to write interpretations and administrative details to law under Democratic leadership.  So the loyal democratic federal employees have the ability to change the meaning of legislation by "definition of terms" definition of eligibility as we see rampent in usda.  Penalizing those seen as not needy enough(or loyal enough to help) even in crop subsidies that are not welfare issues.

They will fight having to move to the midwest where the enemy lives.

So the public will continue to offset the left leaning bureaucracy with a president with backbone(like him or not) to provide some type of control.  And either way the economy for agriculture is not good.......... lower prices means we have lost any part of "freedom" in our markets and any pride of our voters.   Higher prices means instant inflation.... worse than 2011-2014  when our "honest bureaucrats" denied any inflation.  Our press reported it (it protected their leader)  and agriculture saw equipment and other inputs go up 40+% in a very short time.  It will faster this time and not fun long. 

A representative republic takes work(and support)  by citizens.  All Citizens.   We hire the work done. so we may have lost our grip on the rudder.

k-289
Senior Advisor

Re: our markets have left

SW  -Tks  for  the  piece -  Consolidations  have  the  wink  of  the  final  bidder  in  D. C. ,  followed  by  alligator  tears chatter from  the  elected , to  his  forlorn  constituents   -  -  - 

AND   We  R  still  borrow'n  -  latest  fashion  on  both  sides  - while  Ross Perot message  becomes  fainter - - -