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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

"Trump`s EPA" allowing farmers to spray Dicam inventory

You can`t buy any more, just what you already have.  According to wind forecasts, you have 6 hours on Friday to use it up, pick your weediest fields first   🙂

https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/epa-cancels-dicamba-registration-allows-use-of-the-weedkil...

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sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: "Trump`s EPA" allowing farmers to spray Dicam inventory

July 31.

Probably close to enough product in the pipeline.

I'm reminded of when I was paid to be part of a farmer focus group for Monsanto. It turned out the purpose was to figure out how to get farmers to not object to registration of RR corn.

Back in the day, RR beans were a very nice tool, until they ruined it. Not sure about cotton country, where the resistance problems emerged first.

I just said "please don't."

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sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: "Trump`s EPA" allowing farmers to spray Dicam inventory

As far as "recommendations" to rotate modes of action, tankmix with a residual etc.

A couple brothers used to laugh about how wonderful it was to just load the sprayer with generic glyphosate and cover the whole place. Not even a weed in a fencerow.

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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: "Trump`s EPA" allowing farmers to spray Dicam inventory

If you think about it though, isn`t any chemistry or combination of chemistry eventually run out of gas?  Perhaps if we all used full rates of Roundup and didn`t allow escapes we could`ve squeezed 5 more years out of the technology, but eventually if would`ve caught us...wind, birds, seed run-off from floods, CRP seed contamination...a tractor that came from Arkansas with weed seed stuck in the fenders. 

It seems putting a pre down works the best and then relying on post to kill the survivors...but that costs money and beans are 8 bucks.

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eddysinger
Friend

Re: "Trump`s EPA" allowing farmers to spray Dicam inventory

You should listen to this farmer from North Dakota who is making good money on 2000 acres without any fertilizer, herbicide or pesticide inputs.  Mind boggling!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yPjoh9YJMk

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sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: "Trump`s EPA" allowing farmers to spray Dicam inventory

the lack of knowledge on the subject is overwhelming.

We all carry around less and less information and less and less actual experiences....

We are traveling light ..........but when it comes to opinions....

We can't pay the freight bill to get our massive library of opinions across a state line.

The internet ---- made us all geniuses in our own minds.

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sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: "Trump`s EPA" allowing farmers to spray Dicam inventory

How long will it take for the 9th circuit to be overturned again........?  

The icing on the herbicide cake is the court that assumes knowledge of the subject.

The "Jonathan Winters" of judiciary actions........ even epa is saying this may not last the summer.

The california court "for hire" ----- 

 

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rickgthf
Senior Advisor

Re: It doesn't much matter. By next year.....

It really doesn't much matter if producers spray this year or the court ruling is overturned.  It will only be one more year of lawsuits due to dicamba injury, By next year there will be more than enough Enlist soybean seed which uses the much safer 2,4 D choline system.  Producers would be foolish to plant Xtend beans and take the chance to get sued when they can plant Enlist beans and avoid all the hassle.  The seed breeders will move their best genetics over to the Enlist trait because that's where the market will be.

 What do you bet there will be a lot of cheap Xtend seed available cheap next year.  The Xtend patent won't be worth defending.  There might still be a market for Xtend seed in Brazil, the rule of law doesn't seem to apply there so there's no lawsuit risk.

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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: It doesn't much matter. By next year.....

Xtend isn`t dead, the seed companies have been putting all their yield genetics in those with that trait. But, just figure on them being "RR2" beans for the 2021 crop and go Sonic or Zidua pre and Flexstar post clean up.  Who knows maybe they`ll come out with a "super duper safe" spray for 2022 or could be 2021.

I`ve never messed with spraying the Dicamba beans because of liability, if there was a problem, I`d maybe be the guy with the least deep pockets to have insurance coverage or hire lawyers.  Without messing with it, I could say "it wasn`t me!" .    There are some guys that abused spraying dicamba, they or their insurance wrote checks to those they smoked, probably the majority of affected farmers didn`t notice or didn`t figure it was worth the hassel. 

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