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Senior Advisor

Re: the video........

Class warfare. 

Senior Advisor

Red states as 'victims'

Irony of ironies. Red states generally get more federal benefits than the amount of taxes and blue states tend to get less federal dollars than the amount of federal income taxes paid. Does that mean red states are 'on the dole' more than blue states? Using Romney's dangerously superficial 'logic' on this topic one could say so. Meaning all the people in Red States think they're 'victims'? Again, using Romney logic - why not?

 

What we are actually witnessing is how low politicians will go to get money. Very low indeed. Truth and honesty are the victims here. 

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Honored Advisor

Re: Red states as 'victims'

Palouser,

 

This has sure created some interesting info searches.  I saw interesting stuff searching voter affiliation data today.  When one of these issues pops up I get a kick out of searching out actual data.  I always find at least one thing that is different than I would have assumed, or has changed over the years.

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Re: the video........

In a general way, the wealth of the US is and has been under assault from all sides, rich and poor alike. 

 

I'm afraid this might be a fatal gaffe for Romney considering his financial history and his place among the elite.

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Re: the video........

Yes, and also a week ago I wouldn't have bet a dime on big dem gains but at tihs point it looks more than just possible.

 

McCaskill and Warren gaining ground- dems may increase their majority on the senate although Mitt is going to have to do a lot more toe chewing for the Repubs to lose the house.

 

Aside from the fact that they will come to take your high capacity AR-15 clips, brainwash your pale children to become socialist leeches etc., etc. there would be a hugely bullish immediate upside- we wouldn't be playing chicken with the fiscal cliff.

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Veteran Advisor

what are the real numbers???

I know that Mother Jones ran a slanted article on how red states get more in benefits than blue states, based on what is paid in, but where is the background set of assumptions for this and the actual data? is it simply what is paid in for a current year in fica tax , for example, without getting into future liabilities? Did you look into this or take it at face value? Maybe blue states have younger populations, for example. We need discerning minds in America, not parrots.

 

Here is something interesting, a snapshot of which states contributed what in 2007....note how MN gave up $15000 per capita while Iowa only kicked in $6000 per person.....Hey Iowa, what gives????

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_tax_revenue_by_state

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Senior Advisor

Re: MT

There are **bleep** few welfare recipients that have pocketed 2-3-400 K in welfare benefits in their life times and there are plenty of examples of farmers with that much or more assistance.

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Honored Advisor

Re: MT

Sure would like to see the recipient list and totals for those..............data to support assumptions is always good.

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Senior Advisor

Re: what are the real numbers???

Just Google "state federal dollars paid received" and you'll get lots of info. This has generally been known for years.

 

 

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