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09-07-2015 09:31 PM
what is the bets on the opening calls tuesday morning ? down how much......no real news to make things better, everyone commming back...want to make money, so lets just keep beating the market down since there is no reason for it to go up,
more and more big crops...crop is now comming in, so we should see things starting to fall, and since all three is weak,
they will all go down (wheat, corn, soybeans).
wheat is going in the ground........usually you have a rally to encouge people to plant......guess they don't want us to plant,
since it keeps dropping......our crop scout SW, took a look and didn't find everything wonderful.....but this is kansas
you know..we don't count.
just can't figure it out anymore....used to be that if everyone is leaning one way, it would flip, but i think the new systems
are so strongly embeded, that will not work. used to be when the buss boys and waiters at the white table cloth cafe's
in chicagoland, were talking about a market, things would flip....everyone knows how low things are, but nobody
feels there is a problem.....
someone has brainwashed everyone to believe the market it right.....but when it is being taken advantage of and being
used as "investment", rather than value seeking", that whole notion is gone.
what do we do when we are at or below cost of production ?
are they telling us, hey, don't plant anything ???? if they are offering all of us a price lower than production, i guess they
are telling all of don't plant anything.......is that logical...no.....things would be a different world if the us had no production
for a year.....but that is what the market is saying.....it's nuts !!!!
my question....has anyone......market advisors, commodity groups....whatever, told any farmers NOT to plant this fall
or next spring ?
no............wouldn't be in their best interest.......
any elevator operator told you not to plant anything.........and most also sell fertilizer........i had one say the other day when
i wan't happy say....."well you got to plant something, that's the only way you'll have a chance to make anything"........
spoken like a true friend........make sure you do something so i make some money, even if it costs me.
ok.......i'll say it, i think we need to bring back the set aside program........knock the production down.......but you'll
hear everyone holler how that will hurt the economy........my question.......who's economy ?
let's start small........5 or 10 percent.......
we are all told that it is a over supply problem......so let's fix it.......but must be everyone do it.......otherwise we'll
have some wise acres say, i'm not going to, and i'm going to produce all i can to make more when the price goes up
since you fellows cut production.
ok........start throwing the tomatoes........but please, i ask they be ripe, not green, and not rotten either.
09-07-2015 09:50 PM - edited 09-07-2015 09:54 PM
All you are going to get are a bunch of replies that it has been tried before, failed and will never work. This is becase we have become chicken$!%&, spineless, complacent sheepeople who can't organize to save our lives. They know that, therefore; they know they can rape, pillage and steal our production and charge whatever they want for inputs and we will cave-in everytime.
09-08-2015 06:45 AM
Well, I`ll play devil`s advocate there are some that will claim for every 5% in production that we cut that will entice hog and chicken outfits to import foreign grain into the Charleston ports. I have a answer..tariffs, but no one wants to go there. We have a $700 billion trade deficit already we are losing the "trade war", we might as well actually fight instead of surrender as we have be doing.
09-08-2015 11:56 AM
09-09-2015 06:00 AM
Couldnt agree more with set aside acres.....agribusiness was always against them no matter what years they were in forced
agribusiness does not care if you make money or not....they only want you tp produce more and more on both sides of the production equation. By that i mean more fertilzer,chem,fuel machinery to the other side which is the elevators,railroads,trucks,barges etc....
this has happened in the past in fact for more years than i care to remember...in 1976 then in 1981 and the pik program which lasted for years then the freedom to farm collapse of 1997 -2003 the past boom was an abhorration in my opinion because we had great crops and great prices at the same time!!! Unheard of!! we had empathy from the general population back then i dont think they care anymore
09-09-2015 11:14 PM
Absolutely right,,, public has been fed the "rich farmer" picture. The politics of envy and blame.
Public is not fed by farmers today, they are fed by politicians and the press these days...