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[kraft-t]

there might be some yield suprises out of nc iowa.  psst. Don't tell anybody

[cornoncorn]

The acres that got planted look really good in nc ia , except for the corn planted late. Much better than expect at the start of growing season. Don't have to go far in any direction to find crops that burned up late season. Nc ia had some timely rains at tassel which made what could make an above average crop, a lot of prevent plant though in the area some though in the towel early and took insurance cash. Haven't started harvest yet still to wet on late maturity corn but expecting good yields when we do.

[Red Steele]

I drove through northern Iowa a few weeks ago, and you will commonly see 200 bushel per acre corn right across the road from totally unplanted fields.

I was thinking that maybe some of the guys down there made so much money the last few years that they decided to just take the year off.

I mean, its not like you have some parts of a field planted, and some not. For the most part, it would be 400 acres totally planted on one side of the road, and zero on the other...zilch. Big areas like that.

No way should federal crop insurance pay claims in that type of situation. No unsubsidized private company would ever do such a thing.

[mnvtfarm]

So lets say the same guy owned all 800 acres your talking about Red. He was lucky and got 400 acres planted, and then it snowed and rained, and rained, and then rained some more. Your probably right, he gave up and didn't plant the remaining 400 acres. Why? I don't know. Right or wrong, that's not up to me to decide.

The bigger question is. How does he now report his yields to Ag.com? Does he report that he got 200bu/a on 400 acres, or does he report he raised 100 bu/a on 800 acres? Which is correct is not for me to decide either. Which ever way he decides to report, he is going to slammed.  

[sw363535]

A US farmer ------------------

Maybe he harvests the 200 acres, bins it, and reports the failed 400 acres at 0.

More than likely he finishes harvest and reports what he saw his neighbor do.

Most farmers are programmed to only see the failed acre all summer and expect poor crops, so a pleasant supprise awaits and you have that to get you to the next crop.  I don't think it has anything to do with market manipulation-------- just emotional self preservation.

[cornoncorn]

It was a rough spring in ncia, 12 inches of snow on may 13th followed by rain every 3rd day until june 18th. Sure where there is a system there will be abusers. Just my opinion but must of the pp acres around here where on fields that needed it. I've never seen pp acres in the area before. Most where on fields in need of tile, most owned by big city investors who just want a check from someone. They just brag on their high csr, but don't what to spend money on tile, without tile and a good outlet for it the csr doesn't mean much. I personaly didn't have any pp but the way I took it if you had started planting a tract you had to finish you couldn't collect, you only could collect on farms that had no progress started. Very narrow window for planting this year, but looking at the crops. Some probably wish they would of planted past the ins. Deadline and had the corn but at the time pp was looking like a good option. But as a farmer who is smaller and needs to grow I sure would of liked to of had a few more acres this year if their not gonna plant them I sure would of!

[cornoncorn]

Pp claims are worked already and submit and will have all ready been record as a 0 or non planted in acres or harvest data sent to fsa and crop ins paid. So they can't claim them again this fall or spread the yield out across the acres. They have been excluded from crop insurance program for the year after pp claim was paid

[sw363535]

COC,

Just a question,  On the tiled or not tiled issue,    If two fields sell, one with and one without tile, how much difference will that make in the sale price?  Does that issue keep an investor from improving the ground? Or is it just short term profit goals vs land improvement that takes years to pay off.

[cornoncorn]

I don't know on sale price but to tile around here, pattern tile 25ft to 50ft variable spacing depending on soil type 750 to 1200 dollars an acre. Very much worth it in the long run around here if you have good outlet to take the water. Most banks around here put tile on 5 to 7 year notes for pay back of investment. Is it worth it to an investor? Maybe, but if they already get high rent they have no incentive to improve it if no return for them. unless its a crop share or flex lease. I do think that is why some fields didn't get plant this year, tile would of paid big this year for a farmer for an investor depends on their goals and what they could gain. Don't if it answer your ? Or not.

[sw363535]

Thank you 

yes that addressed what I was asking about.