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Longcreekfarms
Senior Contributor

Entry level sprayer and no till drill guidance

I'm new to the precision world and researching before I buy. Running a miller pro sprayer with raven controller. I would like to upgrade to some sort of gps as foam is hard to see over beans, and all but impossible at night in high cover areas.
Also, I'd like to pull the monitor out of my sprayer and put it in front of a crustbuster drill when needed. So I want to find a plug and program and go to work kind of set up. So far, it looks like a Trimble 250 with the AG15 antenna is my best bang for the buck. Any thoughts?
Thank you everyone for your inputs on this site. I've learned a lot. Except for Kraft-t. I just want to smack him 😉
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Shaggy98
Senior Advisor

Re: Entry level sprayer and no till drill guidance

Long, I was in your same situation just a couple years ago.  My advice would be to spend a few extra bucks up front on a good reliable monitor that can be expanded.  The 250 is a good monitor but I am unsure of its expansion capability, I would recommend the 750.  My reason, you might want to expand the uses even further in a couple years, and the 750 would have a larger capacity to do such.  I've got a 750, I am updating the electronics on my CIH 1200 planter with the Field IQ so I can use the 750 for all my GPS guidance and planter monitoring.  This will enable me to have only one monitor in the cab with me (eliminates some cab clutter).  With the 750 I will eventually install the electric clutches on the planter and the 750 will have the capability to use auto shutoffs.  Just my nickels worth.  Good luck with your final decision.

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Shaggy98
Senior Advisor

Re: Entry level sprayer and no till drill guidance

One more thing, you can probably use the 750 with your existing sprayer setup and be able to eliminate your raven controller and have auto boom control.

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Longcreekfarms
Senior Contributor

Re: Entry level sprayer and no till drill guidance

Thanks shaggy. I'll look into it. My corn planter is an old CIH 900 8row and will probably be updated in the next 5 years. It's been a good planter so I'm hesitant about trading her off. If nothing else, it goes in the ground when the green ones are bouncing on top of it 😉 Anyhow, the 750 would make sense in looking to the future. I try not to keep sprayers too long, UAN is hard on them no matter how much you wash it off. Might save a few bucks by not buying a controller next time around if that works... Have some cousins that run a CNH dealership, so they can help me figure that out. They tend to want to sell me more equipment and gadgets than I need though!
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Longcreekfarms
Senior Contributor

Re: Entry level sprayer and no till drill guidance

Quick question, can you apply and rate control starter fertilizer through your planter using the 750?
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Shaggy98
Senior Advisor

Re: Entry level sprayer and no till drill guidance

Good question, but I'm not 100% sure.  I think the 750 has the ability to rate control 1 product.  I'm not certain how the planter controls tie in to all of that.  Your dealership family should be able to answer those questions if they've got a precision specialist on staff.  I know the FMX display has multiple product rate control, but not sure about the 750.

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bobflash77
Frequent Contributor

Re: Entry level sprayer and no till drill guidance

I'll give you my 2cents for what it's worth.  I have been using precision ag at my father in laws farm since 2008.  It has been an incredible learning curve.  We started with a PRO600 and have moved on.  We have currently a 250, a 500 two FM-1000's and a FMX. 

 

The 250 is a good basic cheap reliable lightbar.  Nothing else.  The biggest drawback I have against it is the small screen.  Overall setup and use are easy.   The 500 is a step better, color, lots more features and would eventually run sutosteer if you ever wanted to head in that direction.  But on the features side, it is lacking in that it is not touch screen and has only 6 buttons to run it.  The 750 is a wonderful choice, albiet a more expensive one.  But is has been out for a few years now and used ones should be affordable.  The rate of payback on something like a 750 or a 500 is greatly accellerated if you use it to control your sprayer boom sections and rate with FieldIQ.  It is a matter of only a few years before you will save the money of the hardware by product saved by more precise application.  And that is just savings on the sprayer.  You save more if you use it in more cabs.  The other good thing about sprayer use is that you do not need expensive corrections (i.e. sub inch) to realize savings on a sprayer.  WAAS is plenty good enough. 

 

Your family at the Case IH dealer will be able to help you get a nice setup that works with what you have.  Or sometimes a Trimble only dealer (such as in my area) is the only one that has all the expertice needed in these situations.  Our CaseIH dealers are kinda lacking in thir Trimble knowledge.  CaseIH is in partnership with Trimble but also builds their own products to compete directly against Trimble products.

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Longcreekfarms
Senior Contributor

Re: Entry level sprayer and no till drill guidance

Thank you Bob. I'm leaning toward the 750 at this time. Have a farm show to go to next week and thought I'd pick up some more advice at that time. A friend of mine has a raven cruizer and I played with it for a while. He had it mounted in an odd location where it was hard to pay attention to, but otherwise, I didn't care for it. Took 5 mins to boot up and get started. Small buttons on the screen that would be hard to use while on the move. Thanks for the advice and happy new year!
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