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Re: interesting about Obamacare

Please do not misconstrue my comments as being fatalistic, or that I see that we are reaching the End Times. I am disgusted with the lack of leadership I see at so many levels now, especially in Washington, and the scandals in NC politics are legendary. If there is anything cosmically ordained going on here, it may be that the Earth is moving into a new age, but I am not all wrapped up in those beliefs.

I told our youngest daughter the other night that the thing that bothers me most, in all likelihood, is that I have a strong sense that my generation knew better and screwed up anyway. We got out of one bad war, and have allowed our kids to be dragged into two open conflicts, and several more which are forming, or being fought without formal declarations of hostility.

We saw what pollution, of both environment and our bodies, was capable of, and still didn't save the world or ourselves. We have
made a mess for the next generation to follow. I feel on some level a failure for that fact.

We are going to have to make lots of very difficult choices in the months and years to come. The main problem asI see it is thatwe do not get our money's worth for whatz we spend. We wait until a situation is so bad, it takes heroic measures to finish to a solution what might have been solved with a stitch in time, if we had intervened sooner.

I think we may find that what I saw in the short Spanish of time I studied nursing is going to pop up more and more in medical care..that a lot of standards will change, so " care" in two years or ten years will not look like it does today.
Medicare rolled back 11% of the payment to nursing homes this week. That will have to be balanced out largely in terms of staffing salaries, I fear.
Lots of expensive meds are being taken out of care regimens...due to problems, or lack of proven benefit...how many millions or
even billions have been profited off of them to date, only to learn they don't help, and may harm.

Keep your eyes open, and you will start to see a lot of " needs" being redefined, as our resources dwindle. I can't say if t will be worse, or better. What is bad now is seeing elderly people being spoon fed medications so numerous, the overall effect of that pudding cup of crushed pills is given its own diagnostic term: Polypharmacy.

Start listening to these changes...disallowing certain care is redefining that standard, and I think we will see huge changes. This is just more way of proactively controlling costs.

Don't focus on 2012 as an ending...try to think of it as a new beginning.
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If your generation failed to make things better who will fix these problems. I see a young generation so self-absorbed with having fun and spending money, will they be able to make the needed changes? Or maybe it will take a real crisis for Washington to work together? If security is going to be cut, that may well happen.

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Our generation is finally taking over the reigns from our parents' generation, much of which is the product of the last decade or so. this ismwhy I say we are failing to make things better.
In many ways, we cannot blame the younger generation for being consumerist in their world view. We allowed and actually encouraged this by public policy...this economy needed people to go shopping to keep it's wheels turning. We are off in the ditch now due to lack of disposable income to push goods through the channels of manufacturing to retail. Manufacturing sector's low numbers are a large part of what pulled down the economic outlook last week.
I do not know how we fix this mess...we taught kids that shopping was good, as entertainment, and even to address emotional needs. Works fine if one has enough money, but counterproductive if not. As I commented to our youngest daughter the other night: the technology for credit cards didn't exist until after her Daddy and I were grown.

There was no model for managing such easy- to- acquire debt. The worst you could do was individual charge paltes from a single
store, and really the only way you could shop was by going into the physical brick- and- mortar building, and interacting with clerks who came to recognize you. Stores were open for fairly limited hours, and if you worked, your opportunities browsing and buying were even fewer.

It's no wonder that people got into credit card trouble...it was just too easy to buy, and think about paying later. she saw it with friends in college, who graduated with both huge student loan debt, and tens of thousands in creit card balances, too.
Ours maybe the " sandwich" generation socially, having to deal with both children and elderly parents needing help from us; but, I think pur children's generation will be squeezed between our consumer debt load and the bill for our retirement benefits, too. Top that off with the aforementioned student loans and easy credit, and they will be slaves in another 20 years, if not sooner.
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Spoken like a true Democratic believer!  Do you think the insurance companies are going to pass the increased cost on to the other policy holders?  Remember it isn't just birth control, it includes all other checkups and women related healthcare.  That is the problem with the liberal thinking, it just costs a little more.  However remember a thousand small cuts can finally cause a death or many small leaks can sink a ship.   Don't support free viagra either.  Better philosophy is to pay the piper if you want to dance.

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I do not place a woman's reproductive system health - PAP tests and mammograms, etc. - on a par with a man's Viagra prescription.  Extending the sexual functionality of a person is not the same thing as protecting another person's body from cancer or other deadly disease by conducting screenings and routine exams. 

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Don't disagree but should others pay for your "upkeep".  Although not having as complex plumbing, prostate issues are a male concern and I certainly don't expect someone else to shoulder the financial responsibility.  If providing birth control is such a major issue than consider a less expensive alternative, send a bag of free prophylactics.  Great disease and birth control.  If that isn't good enough and they want a "pill", as mother might say "give them an aspirin and tell them to hold it tightly between their knees".

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I didn't even attempt to justify the free BC. If you want one rational excuse for doing it, it is certainly cheaper to pay for pills, implants, or IUDs, than it is to keep footing the bill for more offspring....

You seem to have some opinion that health of the organs involved in sexual activities are somehow less deserving of care, and that makes absolutely no sense to me. My husband has his annual prostate screenings, just as I have my female equivalents, if that is what you want to call them. Our insurer values them equally in terms of recommended and supported screening schedules.

Just because a part of the body is a part of sexual expression, does not mean it lacks worthiness for maintenance of health. This goes back to pur discussion of the breastfeeding dolls a while back.

Either you see these body parts as created or evolved to serve their natural functions, or you don't. All of the overt, oversexed nature of our society is cultural, which doesn't diminish in any way what God or Nature intended us to do with these parts physically.

I would hate tso think we will revert to a prudishness that people like Betty Ford had to fight to share news of her own breast
cancer...newspapers wanted to call it " chest" problems.
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My insurer didn't cover my PSA test but did her no co-pay mammogram.   So the women groups have already beaten my insurer into submission but men just aren't as outspoken.  Not likely to be convinced either should be, therefore will  temporarily adopt the liberal theme and chant the mantra, "time to "moveon" and leave this forum to the women.

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